Here I am conversing with New Statesman’s George Eaton, reflecting on five years since the EU referendum, Scottish independence, a UK progressive alliance, and whether the EU can stay relevant post Brexit.  Lest I be misunderstood, viz the New Statesman’s title: Given the EU’s post-2008 trajectory, & its behaviour more recently, if I were a Brit I wouldn’t want the UK to re-join. My dream is that those of us still in the EU succeed in transforming it into a Union the UK might want to join.